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		<title>W123 Front Brake rebuild</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2024 07:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
				<category><![CDATA[Mercedes]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[1981 240D]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Brake hoses]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Back in September, when I started to deal with the algae problem in my 240D, I noticed the car was quite hard to push.   At that time I tested to see if the brakes were grabbing and it was clearly the fronts that were to blame.  The rear wheels spun freely ever after a hard push on the brake pedal. Since I had the&#46;&#46;&#46;</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in September, when I <a href="https://www.classicjalopy.com/2024/09/240d-algae-hoist-inspection-and-minor-jobs/">started to deal with the algae problem</a> in my 240D, I noticed the car was quite hard to push.   At that time I tested to see if the brakes were grabbing and it was clearly the fronts that were to blame.  The rear wheels spun freely ever after a hard push on the brake pedal.</p>
<p>Since I had the car in the air, I used the time to check what calipers I had on the car.   On the front, I had Bendix and on the back I had Girling.   Once I dealt with the fuel delivery issues, I planned to have the brakes sorted out.</p>
<p><a title="W123 Front Brake rebuild" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/classicjalopy/53979623244/in/dateposted-public/" data-flickr-embed="true"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53979623244_56bd6b41d5_b.jpg" alt="W123 Front Brake rebuild" width="1024" height="768" /></a></p>
<p>Based on what I saw, I ordered rebuild kits for the front calipers, plus pads, rotors, wear sensors and all four brake hoses.  The mechanic I was using to do the job also suggested I get wheel bearings while he was in there.</p>
<p>Having seen the condition of the fuel tank, it is obvious that this car has seen little use in recent years.   It is pretty typical of lower mileage cars that don&#8217;t see much use to have binding or sticking brake calipers.   This is another reason to use classics regularly and have the brake fluid changed every couple of years.</p>
<p>I suspect a fair number of seldom used classics could do with a brake caliper overhaul.</p>
<p>It took me a lot longer to deal with the fuel delivery issues than I had anticipated.  The car finally went to visit the mechanic this week.  I also asked him to look at the A/C as it was no longer cold.</p>
<p>I got the car back today and the brake feel is transformed.  He told me that he had to replace three of the four pistons in the calipers as they were all corroded.  After seeing the inside of the fuel tank that does not surprise me.   He also changed a valve in the A/C and recharged the system.</p>
<p>Today was around 40C and the car had been sitting outside the mechanics workshop in the sun for a few hours when I picked it up.   It was a good test of the A/C.   On the move, it was quite good, but the performance in traffic was not so great.  I&#8217;m not sure if the aux fan is kicking in enough, I&#8217;ll have to look at that.   On the W123 diesel the fan is only connected to the A/C pressure switch, not the coolant temperature like some of the petrol cars of this period.  This means my trick of adding a resistor to make the fan kick in more aggressively is not as easy to do.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll first make sure the fan is actually working properly, and if it is, perhaps add something that causes it to kick in more aggressively.    I know it did before, but it is possible a relay or fuse has blown since.</p>
<p>The 240D is now running and driving better than ever and I am looking forward to using it more in January.</p>
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		<title>W124 fan clutch and other cooling system improvements</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2023 01:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
				<category><![CDATA[Mercedes]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[1990 300TE]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Brake hoses]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Fan Clutch]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>When I first got my 300TE registered, I had the A/C regassed as it wasn&#8217;t very cold.    That made a huge difference as after that the car was ice cold.   According to the service history, it had been a couple of years since it was last done, so it was probably about due.    At the time, my mechanic suggested I replace the&#46;&#46;&#46;</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first got my 300TE registered, I had the A/C regassed as it wasn&#8217;t very cold.    That made a huge difference as after that the car was ice cold.   According to the service history, it had been a couple of years since it was last done, so it was probably about due.    At the time, my mechanic suggested I replace the fan clutch, as the electric fan was cutting in quite a lot.  He didn&#8217;t think the mechanical one was getting enough air through the condenser.</p>
<p>I figured this was a good idea, because even on a warm (e.g. 28c) day, the car would run a bit over 100C.   Nothing wrong with that temperature, but I want to to be able to confidently drive the car with the A/C on in 40C weather, and that doesn&#8217;t leave a massive margin.</p>
<p>I looked into the fan clutches, and while there were cheap ones available for very little money, I had no confidence they would last very long.   A genuine Mercedes-Benz W124 fan clutch from the classic centre was about the same price as Behr clutch from Pelican Parts.    I also wanted to order a new ignition tumbler from the classic centere, so this would combine shipping.    The part number for my W124 fan clutch was 103-200-04-22.   On closer inspection, it was made by Behr.</p>
<p><a title="W124 fan clutch" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/classicjalopy/52729023000/in/dateposted-public/" data-flickr-embed="true"><img decoding="async" class="aligncenter" src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52729023000_42daf683cc_b.jpg" alt="W124 fan clutch" width="1024" height="747" /></a>There is a special tool required to lock in the water pump to remove the W124 fan clutch.  I don&#8217;t have this tool, plus I already wanted to take the car to the Mechanic to replace the brake hoses and do a fluid flush.   It wasn&#8217;t clear when this was last done from the service history.   I wasn&#8217;t sure of the age of the hoses, the the fluid really should be flushed regularly.</p>
<p>I also didn&#8217;t think the brake pedal feel was quite as good as I was expecting, so it was an opportunity to check the pads too.   Turns out they were fine, so at least I have a spare set on hand.</p>
<p>Before I sent the car in, I noticed the rubber grommets on top of the brake fluid reservoir were quite old and cracked.   These had <a href="https://www.classicjalopy.com/2021/07/bleeding-w126-brakes-with-a-motive-power-bleeder/">prevented me from using a vacuum bleeder</a> on the W126, so I swapped them out.    For some reason, the brake fluid light is now always on.  I&#8217;ll have to check them and make sure I put them on properly.</p>
<p>The other thing I wanted to do myself, was make sure the coolant level was correct.   The reservoir was filled right to the top even cold.   I assume that when the car gets quite hot it would place undue strain on the cooling system.  To be safe, I removed some coolant to get the reservoir to the right level when cold.</p>
<p><a title="Coolant reservoir" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/classicjalopy/52729023075/in/dateposted-public/" data-flickr-embed="true"><img decoding="async" class="aligncenter" src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52729023075_1508241781_b.jpg" alt="Coolant reservoir" width="1024" height="768" /></a>I had also wondered if this extra pressure might be why the low coolant light went on after the car warmed up.    Turns out, its not, and my next step is to change out the sender unit.</p>
<p>After all this, what were the results of my W124 fan clutch replacement?   The car was better, but not as good as I hoped.   Running temperature was a little lower (just under 100) and the electric fan didn&#8217;t cycle quite as much.   The most concerning thing, is that the temperature was at its best at about 70-80km/h.  It actually went up at 110km/h.     I could also hear the fan clutch roaring at constant freeway speed, which it shouldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>My next step will be to change the thermostat.  I have spares on hand. Plus, Its a cheap and easy fix before I start to worry about things like radiators and water pumps.    Not sure what is in the car, but I plan to use an 80C thermostat.   I think 87C may have been standard, but I prefer 80.    I find A/C performance with R134A starts to degrade when the coolant temperature is above 90C.</p>
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		<title>W126 brake hose replacement</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2021 01:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[1986 300SE]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Brake bleeding]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[brake fluid]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been meaning to change the brake hoses on the 300SE for a while.   I have no history for the car, so I don&#8217;t know how old they are.   As I also wanted to change the brake fluid, I thought it made sense to do both jobs at the same time.   I had noticed a slight pull to one side on hard breaking.   It&#46;&#46;&#46;</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been meaning to change the brake hoses on the 300SE for a while.   I have no history for the car, so I don&#8217;t know how old they are.   As I also wanted to change the brake fluid, I thought it made sense to do both jobs at the same time.   I had noticed a slight pull to one side on hard breaking.   It may not have anything to do with the hoses, but they are a good place to start.   Brake fluid really should be changed ever two years.   Most people don&#8217;t do it that frequently, but regular changes are still important.   Probably even more important on cars that don&#8217;t see much use.</p>
<p>I recently had the hoses changed on my 560SEC.   I was originally planning to do this job myself, but when I inspected the hoses under the car it seemed apparent they had not been changed since the car was imported from the UK in 2005.   After seeing this, I decided no to tackle this job myself and I&#8217;m glad I didn&#8217;t as the old hoses put up a good fight.    I figured since the 300SE was an Australian delivered car, the job would be much easier.</p>
<p>W126 brake hose replacement requires different hoses depending on the model.   Based on my 86 300SE and 87 560SEC and SEL, these were the required hoses.</p>
<p><u>300SE</u></p>
<p>Front: 129 428 00 35</p>
<p>Rear: 126 428 03 35</p>
<p><u>560SEL/SEC</u></p>
<p>Front: 129 428 00 35</p>
<p>Rear: 126 428 01 35</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t looked but I suspect the rear hose difference on the 560 models is due to the anti-squat suspension geometry.    I found that the attachments to the caliper were easy to remove, but I was only able to get one of the connections to the brake hard lines off easily.   Even after letting the other ones repeatedly soak in penetrating oil, they still wouldn&#8217;t move.   I was using the correct flare nut spanners but I still couldn&#8217;t get them to budge.</p>
<p>In the end I had a mechanic from up the road help me and we only got them off with vice grips.   This is not ideal, but the only way to get them off.    Cutting open the old hoses didn&#8217;t show any restrictions, but they were very hard and were starting to get some minor cracking on the outside.    I think next time I will not tackle W126 brake hose replacement myself and just send the car into a mechanic.</p>
<p>With the new hoses installed, the next step was to bleed the brakes.   I had bought a new vacuum bleeder a few months ago and this would have been its first use.</p>
<p><a title="W126 brake hose replacement" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/classicjalopy/51301331081/in/dateposted-public/" data-flickr-embed="true"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51301331081_96a96cb342_b.jpg" alt="W126 brake hose replacement" width="1024" height="768" /></a>The power bleeder is quite easy to use, however I ran into another problem.   I couldn&#8217;t get my system to hold pressure.  At first I thought it was just a minor leak from the cap.   It turns out the rubber grommets on top of the housing for the fluid level were leaking quite badly and fluid poured out when I tried to bleed the brakes.    I&#8217;ve ordered a new set of grommets but also a new fluid reservoir in case there are more leaks.</p>
<p>As so many W126 parts are going NLA as Mercedes-Benz loses interest in the model, it will be good to have one on the shelf even if I don&#8217;t use it today.   The new housing is an upgraded part and it looks like it doesn&#8217;t need the rubber grommets.</p>
<p>In the short time I used the bleeder before I noticed the leak, I found it quite easy to use &#8211; the best system for bleeding brakes I&#8217;ve used so far.  I am confident it will be quite a simple job once I get the parts in I need.</p>
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		<title>450SLC Dragging rear brakes – part 3</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2019 07:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[1977 450SLC]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Brake hoses]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>In part 2, I had been struggling with my new SLC rear Calipers.   As outlined in that section, the new calipers I had on hand are for models not equipped with the anti-squat rear suspension.   This was because USA models were not so equipped.   The hard lines were too short to fit properly and fouled on the suspension bump stops.    I dropped the&#46;&#46;&#46;</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <a href="http://www.classicjalopy.com/2019/12/450slc-dragging-rear-brakes-part-2/">part 2</a>, I had been struggling with my new SLC rear Calipers.   As outlined in that section, the new calipers I had on hand are for models not equipped with the anti-squat rear suspension.   This was because USA models were not so equipped.   The hard lines were too short to fit properly and fouled on the suspension bump stops.    I dropped the car off earlier in the week to have new hard lines made up that fit, and to change the flexible hoses.</p>
<p>I have since found out that I made a pretty stupid mistake.   Instead of checking the new parts properly, I used the old ones to determine how they should fit.   In this case, I fitted the calipers based on the position of the old ones.   If I had checked the part numbers properly, I would have seen they were on the wrong sides.   Additionally, if I had used even a modicum of common sense I would have seen the bleeders were facing down, not up.     Why is this a problem?   Having the bleeders facing down means it is pretty much impossible to bleed the brakes.   Instead of pushing the air out, the fluid will just run out leaving air in the calipers.</p>
<p>The brake shop first put the SLC rear calipers on the right sides.   Then they made up new hard lines for the rears to go from the hose to the caliper.     After that, they changed the hoses.   The fronts were not much of a problem.     They had the same problems I did with the rears &#8211; no matter what they tried they could not undo the fittings.    I suspect that due to the extreme heat from the sticking rear calipers, the metals were almost welded together.</p>
<p><a title="Stubborn rear hoses" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/97047353@N00/49149892321/"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" title="Stubborn rear hoses" src="http://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49149892321_af61c028e7_c.jpg" alt="Stubborn rear hoses - needed for the SLC rear calipers" width="800" height="600" /></a></p>
<p>In summary,  I have an entirely new rear braking system.   New calipers, rotors, hard lines on both sides and hoses.    I also have a new master cylinder and front hoses.    The brakes feel great, and now the brakes are not dragging, the car feels more lively.</p>
<p>Incidentally the shop I took the car to has recently done some work on a 50,000km 450SLC.   They commented that mine rode better and seemed to have more power.   Not bad after 300,000km.</p>
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		<title>450SLC Dragging rear brakes – part 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2019 05:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[1977 450SLC]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[brake fluid]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>A couple of weeks ago I started investigating the dragging brakes on my SLC.   I found both of my rear calipers had been overheated and were in poor condition.   I ordered a set of rear calipers, and decided to change the rotors too.   Mine were still in spec, but on the lower end.    The hoses I had purchased last time were also not&#46;&#46;&#46;</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of weeks ago I started investigating the <a href="http://www.classicjalopy.com/2019/10/450slc-dragging-rear-brakes-part-1/">dragging brakes</a> on my SLC.   I found both of my rear calipers had been overheated and were in poor condition.   I ordered a set of rear calipers, and decided to change the rotors too.   Mine were still in spec, but on the lower end.    The hoses I had purchased last time were also not right.  I needed hoses with two female ends but the other hoses were male/female.</p>
<p><a title="450SLC brake calipers" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/97047353@N00/49149891706/" rel=""><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" title="450SLC brake calipers" src="http://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49149891706_c5ba4af03d_c.jpg" alt="450SLC brake calipers" width="800" height="600" /></a></p>
<p>The first thing I found was that it was quite hard to remove the old rotors.   Not only were the rotors rusted to the hubs, but the old rotors was catching on the handbrake shoes.   I was able to turn the wheel by hand, but I think it was dragging a little.   It took a couple of huge whacks to free the rust on the hubs, and a lot of pulling to get them over the shoes.</p>
<p><a title="Hub" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/97047353@N00/49150101407/" rel=""><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" title="Hub" src="http://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49150101407_89931d2c8a_c.jpg" alt="Hub" width="800" height="600" /></a></p>
<p>I used a wire wheel to clean off some of the rust on the surface.  After that I applied some copper grease to stop it rusting in place next time.     Putting on the new rotors was almost impossible.   The handbrake shoes fouled on it quite badly and I had to adjust the handbrake shoes quite a lot.  Not just a few teeth, but probably a full turn.   I wonder if this was also part of the dragging?     Before I had adjusted the handbrake, I could not turn the new rotor at all even with two lug bolts at a long pry bar.     After the cleaning the braking surfaces, I was able to fit the new rotor.</p>
<p><a title="450SLC rear caliper" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/97047353@N00/49150100362/" rel=""><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" title="450SLC rear caliper" src="http://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49150100362_ff61560603_c.jpg" alt="450SLC rear caliper" width="800" height="600" /></a></p>
<p>At this point I also bent and fitted the new hard line I had damaged in part 1.   The lines do not come pre-bent and I so purchased a bending tool.  It is important to do more than minor bends with the tool as you can kink the lines and impair brake function.</p>
<p><a title="New brake line" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/97047353@N00/49149403638/"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" title="New brake line" src="http://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49149403638_c588477434_c.jpg" alt="New brake line for 450SLC rear caliper" width="800" height="600" /></a></p>
<p>The new 450SLC rear caliper fitted quite well, but there was a problem.   The new caliper had a slightly different place for the brake line than the old one.   Other than that, it was almost identical.      I did some research and found the source of the problem.</p>
<p>For one reason or another, Mercedes-Benz decided not to equip North American 450SLCs with the anti-squat rear suspension.   I imagine the decisions was based on the lower power output of those engines.   It is a strange decision though, as while the power is lower, there is still plenty of torque that is the main cause of the squat on acceleration.    Not equipping the cars with this suspension also meant a different arrangement for the brakes.   On the rest of world SLCs, there is a brake hose that connects the hard line from the car to another hard line that brings it to the 450SLC rear caliper at the front of the rotor.   This is the system that my car is equipped with.    On the North American cars (and the 350SLC, 280SLC etc), there is the normal arrangement of a hose from the hard line right into the caliper.</p>
<p>This is why the brake hoses I purchased first time around had a male/female arrangement and these new calipers had a slightly different arrangement for the brake hose.   The brake calipers I have, are part number 1234200583 and 1234200683.   The new correct brake calipers for my car have a 126 part number.   These calipers are far more expensive than the 123 part number 450SLC rear caliper.</p>
<p>On the passengers side I was able to get the hard line to connect to the caliper.   I am a bit concerned that it is very close to the bump stop.   On the drivers side, I was not able to bend it the way I wanted and it rubs on the bump stop.   I don&#8217;t think this is very safe as a large bump could damage the line.</p>
<p>From looking at the caliper, I think a new (slightly longer) line could be fabricated that clears the bump stop and connects to the caliper.   I don&#8217;t really have the ability or tools to do this, so I will take the car to a brake specialist.  This should be the best way forward rather than getting a new set of calipers.   I was also unable to get the hose off the drivers side, so will have them do that at the same time.  What they found and the w9ork they did is covered in <a href="http://www.classicjalopy.com/2019/12/450slc-dragging-rear-brakes-part-3/">part 3</a>.</p>
<p>I bled the brakes, first with my vacuum pump and then had a friend help me bleed the brakes further with the traditional method.   There must be a small amount of air left in the system as the pedal is a little spongy.  I didn&#8217;t re-bleed as when the new lines are fabricated they will need to bleed in any case.</p>
<p>I also tested the handbrake and it is able to stop the car and is not dragging.</p>
<p>My final task was to fit my new MBCNSW grille badge.   I put it on the opposite side as my Mercedes high mileage badge.   Looks pretty good.</p>
<p><a title="MBCNSW grille badge" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/97047353@N00/49150101272/" rel=""><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" title="MBCNSW grille badge" src="http://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49150101272_5d6a930c5b_c.jpg" alt="MBCNSW grille badge" width="800" height="600" /></a>For what should be a simple job, this one has taken a long time.   I&#8217;ve probably spent more than two full days on it.</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.classicjalopy.com/2019/12/450slc-dragging-rear-brakes-part-2/">450SLC Dragging rear brakes – part 2</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.classicjalopy.com"></a>.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>For the last couple of years I have noticed a noise from the rear of the 450SLC while driving.   At first I thought it might be a wheel bearing or some kind of bushing.   I mentioned it to my mechanic and he took and look and it wasn&#8217;t any of those things. Last time I took the car on a longer drive, the noise&#46;&#46;&#46;</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the last couple of years I have noticed a noise from the rear of the 450SLC while driving.   At first I thought it might be a wheel bearing or some kind of bushing.   I mentioned it to my mechanic and he took and look and it wasn&#8217;t any of those things.</p>
<p>Last time I took the car on a longer drive, the noise was getting worse, and I noticed after I returned the rear wheels were hot to the touch.   Too hot to touch.    I realized that my noise had been dragging rear brakes all along.</p>
<p>Both sides were hot the touch, so it wasn&#8217;t just one bad caliper.    I went back and checked my maintenance records for the car and saw that the brake hoses were last changed in 2003 when I purchased the car, and one of the hoses changed again about two years after that.  16 years is about all the life that can be expected form these hoses, so I decided to replace them.   I also thought it would make sense to replace the master cylinder, as it is more likely to be causing dragging rear brakes on both sides.     Unlike when I had a <a href="http://www.classicjalopy.com/2017/11/e-type-brakes-holding-dear-life/">similar problem</a> with the Jag, the brakes were not locked hard on, just dragging.</p>
<p>Today, I did some further inspections.   I removed the rear wheels and looked at the condition of the calipers, pads and rotors.</p>
<p><a title="Dragging rear brakes - calipers, pads and rotors" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/97047353@N00/48967100657/" rel=""><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" title="Dragging rear brakes - calipers, pads and rotors" src="http://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48967100657_78dd6d1cc5_c.jpg" alt="Dragging rear brakes - calipers, pads and rotors" width="800" height="600" /></a></p>
<p>The rotors were still within the spec from the workshop manual.   The hoses looked old, and not particularly flexible.   It was also quite hard to push in one of the pistons to remove the pads, even with caliper disconnected from the brake system.     This led me to remove the caliper for further inspection.</p>
<p>It was the same story on the other side.   Removal of the calipers showed that the heat had made the seal rather crispy.</p>
<p><a title="Rear calipers" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/97047353@N00/48966374323/" rel=""><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" title="Rear calipers" src="http://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48966374323_2beba85858_c.jpg" alt="Rear calipers" width="800" height="600" /></a></p>
<p>These calipers can be rebuilt.  I may just replace them as the pistons don&#8217;t look great and the heat may have done other damage.   I am not sure if it is to do with the heat, or the 16 years on the car, but I found it almost impossible to remove the flexible hoses.  Even using the flare nut wrenches I managed to damage one of my hard lines.   I have liberally soaked the other side in penetrant to see if that will help when I get the new calipers.</p>
<p>While I was at it, I also replaced the master cylinder.    The brake fluid looked pretty good from a visual inspection.   I was quite surprised how much vile black fluid there was in the rear chamber of the reservoir once I removed it.   This is even after a flush about 18-24 months ago.</p>
<p><a title="Dragging rear brakes - changing master" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/97047353@N00/48966375358/" rel=""><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" title="Dragging rear brakes - changing master" src="http://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48966375358_173c759edf_c.jpg" alt="Dragging rear brakes - changing master" width="800" height="600" /></a></p>
<p>Some stained old shirts helped me protect the paintwork from the brake fluid.   In contrast with the flexible hoses in the rear, the lines were easy to remove from the master.   The coolant expansion tank needs to be unscrewed to get the master out. It does not have to move very far, so it does not need to be emptied.</p>
<p><a title="new master" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/97047353@N00/48967100977/" rel=""><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" title="new master" src="http://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48967100977_c4e07c08c8_c.jpg" alt="new master" width="800" height="600" /></a>Next steps are to remove and replace the hoses from the rear, fit new calipers to the rear and replace the front hoses while I am at it.   At this point I do not have any indication that the front calipers need to be replaced or rebuilt.  This is covered in <a href="http://www.classicjalopy.com/2019/12/450slc-dragging-rear-brakes-part-2/">part 2</a> and <a href="http://www.classicjalopy.com/2019/12/450slc-dragging-rear-brakes-part-3/">part 3</a>.</p>
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