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		<title>240D motor mounts, engine shock and thermostat</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2024 10:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
				<category><![CDATA[Mercedes]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[1981 240D]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>I just got my 240D back from having the motor mounts changed.   When I purchased the 240D, the motor mounts were one of the few obvious things that needed attending to on the car.   They looked pretty bad and the engine was shaking at idle. On a W123 or W126, normally I would go with the Lemforder motor mounts, which are excellent.    I&#46;&#46;&#46;</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got my 240D back from having the motor mounts changed.   When I purchased the 240D, the motor mounts were one of the few obvious things that needed attending to on the car.   They looked pretty bad and the engine was shaking at idle.</p>
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<p>On a W123 or W126, normally I would go with the Lemforder motor mounts, which are excellent.    I couldn&#8217;t find any of those for sale.   Generally I avoid Meyle parts as I find their quality and longevity questionable.  However, I had read a couple of good reviews of their HD parts.    Given 240Ds have a reputation of being hard on motor mounts, I thought I would give them a try.</p>
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<p>At the same time, I bought a new transmission mount, plus and engine shock and fitting kit.    Interestingly, while the 300D has a pair of engine shocks like a V8, the 240D has a single one.   When the Meyle mounts arrived, they looked quite substantial, and quite different form the regular Meyle mounts.  I didn&#8217;t inspect the transmission  mount, but it seemed to make sense to do them all at the same time.</p>
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<p>Now I have the car back, my initial feeling is that these mounts are very hard, and probably a bit too hard.   I expect they will settle a little, which may make them a bit better.   They are an improvement on the original mounts, but are a little harsh, particularly when the engine is cold.</p>
<p>While the car was in, I also had the shift bushings and thermostat changed.    I would normally do the shift bushings myself, with the Kent Bergsma tool, but my hoist is currently broken.   The car had been running a bit hotter than I would like, so the thermostat seemed like an obvious thing to do.</p>
<p>The shift bushings made a big difference, and so far the thermostat seems to have helped somewhat.   The engine still gets quite warm going up a steep hill, but it now cools off a bit when not under load.    I&#8217;ll keep an eye on this.    I was able to verify that the oil cooler is working.   When I parked the car after driving today, the oil cooler was warm to the touch.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been really enjoying this car. The W123 sedan is such a great car, especially when compared to how cheap they are to buy.</p>
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		<title>450SLC major service and poor quality engine mounts</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2023 03:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[1977 450SLC]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>This week my 450SLC has been in the workshop having a major service.    This was the first time since the big trip to Adelaide last year.    There were a few things to sort out, but one of the major ones was having new engine mounts fitted. These were noted as collapsed when I had the car checked over before the trip to&#46;&#46;&#46;</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week my 450SLC has been in the workshop having a major service.    This was the first time since the <a href="https://www.classicjalopy.com/2022/04/mercedes-clubs-national-rally-2022-summary/">big trip to Adelaide</a> last year.    There were a few things to sort out, but one of the major ones was having new engine mounts fitted.</p>
<p>These were noted as collapsed when I had the car checked over before the trip to Adelaide.  There wasn&#8217;t time to replace them, so I ordered a new pair and they were finally installed this week.   I was pretty disappointed as it wasn&#8217;t all that long since I replaced them and I had used genuine mounts.   The genuine mounts were quite expensive, but I couldn&#8217;t find any from a brand I would use.   The Lemforder mounts for the W126 are excellent and inexpensive, but I could only find the Meyle  mounts that have a reputation of collapsing after 6 months.</p>
<p>I went back through the service history and I had the mounts fitted in September of 2019.   Given they were already collapsed in March of 2022, that was less than three years of life.   The last genuine set I used went over ten years.  The picture below shows the old engine mounts removed.   They were in a pretty bad way.     I hope I just got a bad batch, as I&#8217;ve put another genuine set in.    Not only did they last less than three years, but also only 5,000km.</p>
<p><a title="2023-08-04 17-50-23" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/classicjalopy/53093699227/in/dateposted-public/" data-flickr-embed="true"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53093699227_f690199c10_b.jpg" alt="2023-08-04 17-50-23" width="1024" height="768" /></a>With the new engine mounts fitted, the car is so much smoother.  There is another downside though, the engine is up high enough now that the exhaust touches one of the heat shields under hard acceleration.   The engine mounts were only a year old when it was fitted, so I guess they had already collapsed a bit after a year.   My mechanic thinks they will settle a bit and it will be fine, but its quite an annoying vibration.</p>
<p>While the car was there, I discussed with my mechanic doing the valve stem seals next year.   I wanted to get his view if it made sense to do the timing chain at the same time.   We agreed that it would make sense.   The chain was last done over twenty years ago, and while its only done about 60-70,000km, the guides are now over twenty years old, as is the tensioner.</p>
<p>The service also highlighted that the seal in #1 is worse than most of the others.  I hope it is just the seal and not excessive wear in the guide, as the plug was pretty badly fouled up.    My mechanic told me that should be able to tell by looking at the condition of the seal and the guide from the top of we can just replace seals, or if the head will need to come off to replace the guides.  Some of the other plugs were a bit fouled, but not like #1.</p>
<p><a title="2023-08-04 16-54-53" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/classicjalopy/53094439634/in/dateposted-public/" data-flickr-embed="true"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53094439634_972a95b4d8_b.jpg" alt="2023-08-04 16-54-53" width="1024" height="768" /></a>My car hardly makes any visible smoke.   There are a few of these cars at club events that produce quite a lot of smoke at takeoff. I would hate to see the condition of their plugs.   These cars don&#8217;t like sitting around, and bad valve seals is a common issue on cars that don&#8217;t get driven a lot.   At the same time as changing the chain, tensioner and seals, we&#8217;ll also change the sprockets, camshaft oiler tube fittings etc.     Other than the vibration on hard acceleration, the car is driving extremely well.</p>
<p>Looking at the car on the hoist, it is still very dirty from the Adelaide trip.   At some point I&#8217;ll have to give the underside a good clean.</p>
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