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		<title>450SLC Dragging rear brakes &#8211; part 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2019 10:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
				<category><![CDATA[Mercedes]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[1977 450SLC]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[brake fluid]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Brake hoses]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Calipers]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>For the last couple of years I have noticed a noise from the rear of the 450SLC while driving.   At first I thought it might be a wheel bearing or some kind of bushing.   I mentioned it to my mechanic and he took and look and it wasn&#8217;t any of those things. Last time I took the car on a longer drive, the noise&#46;&#46;&#46;</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.classicjalopy.com/2019/10/450slc-dragging-rear-brakes-part-1/">450SLC Dragging rear brakes &#8211; part 1</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.classicjalopy.com">Classic Jalopy</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the last couple of years I have noticed a noise from the rear of the 450SLC while driving.   At first I thought it might be a wheel bearing or some kind of bushing.   I mentioned it to my mechanic and he took and look and it wasn&#8217;t any of those things.</p>
<p>Last time I took the car on a longer drive, the noise was getting worse, and I noticed after I returned the rear wheels were hot to the touch.   Too hot to touch.    I realized that my noise had been dragging rear brakes all along.</p>
<p>Both sides were hot the touch, so it wasn&#8217;t just one bad caliper.    I went back and checked my maintenance records for the car and saw that the brake hoses were last changed in 2003 when I purchased the car, and one of the hoses changed again about two years after that.  16 years is about all the life that can be expected form these hoses, so I decided to replace them.   I also thought it would make sense to replace the master cylinder, as it is more likely to be causing dragging rear brakes on both sides.     Unlike when I had a <a href="http://www.classicjalopy.com/2017/11/e-type-brakes-holding-dear-life/">similar problem</a> with the Jag, the brakes were not locked hard on, just dragging.</p>
<p>Today, I did some further inspections.   I removed the rear wheels and looked at the condition of the calipers, pads and rotors.</p>
<p><a title="Dragging rear brakes - calipers, pads and rotors" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/97047353@N00/48967100657/" rel=""><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" title="Dragging rear brakes - calipers, pads and rotors" src="http://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48967100657_78dd6d1cc5_c.jpg" alt="Dragging rear brakes - calipers, pads and rotors" width="800" height="600" /></a></p>
<p>The rotors were still within the spec from the workshop manual.   The hoses looked old, and not particularly flexible.   It was also quite hard to push in one of the pistons to remove the pads, even with caliper disconnected from the brake system.     This led me to remove the caliper for further inspection.</p>
<p>It was the same story on the other side.   Removal of the calipers showed that the heat had made the seal rather crispy.</p>
<p><a title="Rear calipers" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/97047353@N00/48966374323/" rel=""><img decoding="async" class="aligncenter" title="Rear calipers" src="http://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48966374323_2beba85858_c.jpg" alt="Rear calipers" width="800" height="600" /></a></p>
<p>These calipers can be rebuilt.  I may just replace them as the pistons don&#8217;t look great and the heat may have done other damage.   I am not sure if it is to do with the heat, or the 16 years on the car, but I found it almost impossible to remove the flexible hoses.  Even using the flare nut wrenches I managed to damage one of my hard lines.   I have liberally soaked the other side in penetrant to see if that will help when I get the new calipers.</p>
<p>While I was at it, I also replaced the master cylinder.    The brake fluid looked pretty good from a visual inspection.   I was quite surprised how much vile black fluid there was in the rear chamber of the reservoir once I removed it.   This is even after a flush about 18-24 months ago.</p>
<p><a title="Dragging rear brakes - changing master" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/97047353@N00/48966375358/" rel=""><img decoding="async" class="aligncenter" title="Dragging rear brakes - changing master" src="http://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48966375358_173c759edf_c.jpg" alt="Dragging rear brakes - changing master" width="800" height="600" /></a></p>
<p>Some stained old shirts helped me protect the paintwork from the brake fluid.   In contrast with the flexible hoses in the rear, the lines were easy to remove from the master.   The coolant expansion tank needs to be unscrewed to get the master out. It does not have to move very far, so it does not need to be emptied.</p>
<p><a title="new master" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/97047353@N00/48967100977/" rel=""><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" title="new master" src="http://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48967100977_c4e07c08c8_c.jpg" alt="new master" width="800" height="600" /></a>Next steps are to remove and replace the hoses from the rear, fit new calipers to the rear and replace the front hoses while I am at it.   At this point I do not have any indication that the front calipers need to be replaced or rebuilt.  This is covered in <a href="http://www.classicjalopy.com/2019/12/450slc-dragging-rear-brakes-part-2/">part 2</a> and <a href="http://www.classicjalopy.com/2019/12/450slc-dragging-rear-brakes-part-3/">part 3</a>.</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.classicjalopy.com/2019/10/450slc-dragging-rear-brakes-part-1/">450SLC Dragging rear brakes &#8211; part 1</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.classicjalopy.com">Classic Jalopy</a>.</p>
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		<title>Sometimes new parts are not better</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2017 12:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
				<category><![CDATA[Jaguar / Daimler]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[1965 E-Type]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Brakes]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Master Cylinder]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>My E-Type has had ongoing problems with the brakes holding on.    This has been on and off since I bought the car in 2010.   Over that time, I have pretty much renewed the entire braking system.   Turns out, that might be part of the problem.    What I have learned, is that the reproduction E-Type Master Cylinder can be problematic.   So much so,&#46;&#46;&#46;</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.classicjalopy.com/2017/11/sometimes-new-parts-not-better/">Sometimes new parts are not better</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.classicjalopy.com">Classic Jalopy</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My E-Type has had <a href="http://www.classicjalopy.com/2017/11/e-type-brakes-holding-dear-life/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">ongoing problems</a> with the brakes holding on.    This has been on and off since I bought the car in 2010.   Over that time, I have pretty much renewed the entire braking system.   Turns out, that might be part of the problem.    What I have learned, is that the reproduction E-Type Master Cylinder can be problematic.   So much so, that rebuilt units are probably better.</p>
<p>The unit on my car was only around 18 months old, and it was clearly the problem here.    When removed and bench tested, the piston was obviously sticking in the bore.    The theory my mechanic has is that the new parts are susceptible to corrosion, but if they are used every day like a modern car, would probably be OK.   Under irregular use like a classic, they quickly develop these sort of problems.    He has stopped using them on customers cars and now fits rebuilt units.   Same goes for the servo, where a new unit was recently replaced with a rebuilt.</p>
<p><a title="E-Type Master Cylinder" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/97047353@N00/24847477908/" rel=""><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" title="E-Type Master Cylinder" src="http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4579/24847477908_c00a961b75_c.jpg" alt="E-Type Master Cylinder" width="600" height="800" /></a></p>
<p>With a rebuilt unit it is possible to ensure the piston and bore have the correct coating to last a long time with irregular use.</p>
<p>This evening I took the car on a longer drive of around 25 miles.   I had almost forgotten how nice the car is to drive when working properly!  I had great pedal feel, the car rolled easily after stops and the engine wasn&#8217;t lugging from sticking brakes.   The brakes squealed a bit, probably from the pads being a bit glazed from the sticking.</p>
<p>I will have to drive the car a few more times, but its possible the braking problem is finally solved.   Since I have owned the car I have changed:</p>
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<li>The master cylinder (twice)</li>
<li>The slave cylinder</li>
<li>The Servo (twice)</li>
<li>All the flexible brake hoses</li>
<li>Rebuilt the front calipers</li>
<li>Fixed incorrect brake line routing where the rears/fronts were reversed</li>
<li>Brake light switch (twice)</li>
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<p>I will be very happy if I don&#8217;t have to attend to the brakes for quite some time on the E-Type.  The last good drive I had in the car was early 2016, so I am looking forward to a few more.</p>
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		<title>E-Type brake overhaul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2014 11:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
				<category><![CDATA[Jaguar / Daimler]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[1965 E-Type]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Calipers]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Master Cylinder]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Pertronix]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Wishbones]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The brakes on the E-Type have been somewhat problematic since I got it.    When the brakes got hot, they would not always release fully.     Over the last 4 years I have tried a number of things to fix the problem but it has always come back to some extent. When I still had the car in the USA, it was worse,&#46;&#46;&#46;</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.classicjalopy.com/2014/09/e-type-brake-overhaul/">E-Type brake overhaul</a> appeared first on <a href="https://www.classicjalopy.com">Classic Jalopy</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The brakes on the E-Type have been somewhat problematic since I got it.    When the brakes got hot, they would not always release fully.     Over the last 4 years I have tried a number of things to fix the problem but it has always come back to some extent.</p>
<p>When I still had the car in the USA, it was worse, the brakes would decide to lock on, and they would get to the point where the car was immobile for 5-6 minutes until they finally decided to release.  I was stuck by the side of the road on quite a few occasions.    At that time, I had a complete E-Type brake overhaul.  The master, servo, fluid, brake light switch etc were all changed.   This made it much better – for a while I thought it had gone away, but a few months later it started happening again just a little and the brake light switch was also staying on again.     The brake light switch was replaced again and an adjustment was made with no other improvement than the brake lights working again.</p>
<p>This time, the problem looks to be solved.   The front brake calipers were rebuilt – they were quite rusty.   In addition, the master cylinder that was put on in 2011 was not working correctly, and flexible lines were replaced.   Not only have I done the full E-Type brake overhaul, I have re-overhauled some items!</p>
<p><a title="Rebuilt calipers" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/97047353@N00/15269633716/"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter" title="Rebuilt calipers" src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3876/15269633716_050e78fb9e.jpg" alt="Rebuilt calipers - E-Type brake overhaul. " width="281" height="500" /></a></p>
<p>While the car was in the shop it also had the top wishbones replaced as they were worn.  I also had the cam oiling tube cleaned, and a few other minor adjustments.   In addition, a Pertronix electric ignition installed.</p>
<p>The result of all this is the car is better in every way.   The brakes have never worked this well.  The electronic ignition makes the car much easier to start and run better too.   The Jag was always a slow starter when cold – not anymore.</p>
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